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PETITION PROCEDURE NEEDS TO BE REFORMED FIRST THROUGH THE PROCEDURE COMMITTEE OF PARLIAMENT

PETITION PROCEDURE NEEDS TO BE REFORMED FIRST THROUGH THE PROCEDURE COMMITTEE OF PARLIAMENT

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Shantanu Panigrahi

To:HOC Petitions Committee

Cc:Conservative Policy Forum,MembershipConservatives,HOC Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Select Committee

Sat, 1 Jun at 21:00

 

To

1. Petitions Committee

2. House of Commons Enquiry

3. Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Select Committee

4. Conservative Policy Forum

5. Membership at Conservative Party

 

Dear all

 

Please find attached correspondence relating to Public representation of concerns directly to the appropriate Committee in the House of Commons: ToChange.org38Degrees(Take the next step with your petitionJustcheckingonthecurrentConsitution)1Jun20224.docx.

 

The reason that there is unease and public demonstrations on the streets as reported in the link here: https://www.theconservativelibertariansociety.com/forum/tclp-uk-proceedings/protest-marches-in-london-by-right-wing-activists-and-anti-racism-groups is that the people do not have access to the Courts nor to the democratic processes of Parliament either through the Political Parties that they join like I have done, nor do they have ready access to the Petitions Committee in a meaningful way.

 

The first task for me is to highlight these concerns in an ePetition before the matter of a Written Constitution is addressed.

 

Yours sincerely

 

Dr Shantanu Panigrahi

3 Hoath Lane

Wigmore

Gillingham

Kent ME8 0SL

United Kingdom

Tel: 07967789619

Active Conservative Party Member: Membership number: 530473072

Local Association: Gillingham and Rainham

 

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ToChange.org38Degrees(Take the next step with your petitionJustCheckingontheCurrentConstitution)1Jun2024.docx     542.1kB

Take the next step with your petition

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from:    Shantanu Panigrahi <shanpanigrahi3000@gmail.com>

to:          "Change.org" <reply.en-GB@reply.e.change.org>

cc:         38 Degrees <38degreessupport@38degrees.org.uk>,

Pooja C Singh - 38 Degrees <action@38degrees.org.uk>

date:     1 Jun 2024, 13:18

subject:               Re: Take the next step with your petition

mailed-by:         gmail.com

 

Hello Change

 

I am just now in the process of checking on the present Constitution of the United Kingdom, as attached: ToCentLonCtyCrtJudiciary(CLAIM E35YM660DISPOSAL_PromotionofPublicPetitions)1Jun2024.docx.

 

Yours sincerely

 

Dr Shantanu Panigrahi (Petitioner)

3 Hoath Lane

Wigmore

Gillingham

Kent ME8 0SL

Kent ME8 0SL

United Kingdom

Tel: 07967789619

 

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ToCentLonCtyCrtJudiciary(CLAIM E35YM660DISPOSAL_PromotionofPublicPetitions)1Jun2024.docx

CLAIM E35YM660 DISPOSAL

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from:    Shantanu Panigrahi <shanpanigrahi3000@gmail.com>

to:          Central London DJSKEL <centrallondondjskel@justice.gov.uk>

date:     1 Jun 2024, 12:26

subject:               CLAIM E35YM660 DISPOSAL

mailed-by:         gmail.com

 

To

The Judiciary

Central London County Court

 

Your Honour

 

On the assumption that my Claim for £100 million in damages and compensation from the Treasury of the United Kingdom under this Claim failed, and the failure of the four major political parties to entertain the complaint under the current Constitution, I have this morning started a public petition as linked here: https://chng.it/kLjNpKy52T at Change.org and the attached modified petition at 38 Degrees (AMENDMENT TO THE PETITION AT 38 DEGREES FOR A WRITTEN CONSTITUTION IN THE UNITED KINGDOM.pdf) which is undergoing it's reconsideration.

 

If there are any reasons whatsoever that I must not promote these two almost identical petitions now that I have determined that the ePetition to Parliament process under current Procedures is non-starter (even when Parliament reconvenes after the general election of 4 July 2024) for reasons that I have deemed these procedures to be a totally abysmally-dysfunctional method for open government (FrPetitionsCommitteHOC(FurtherClarificationsPlease)31May2024.pdf; as I have done here in Linkedin: COLLABORATION FOR A WRITTEN CONSTITUTION FOR THE UNITED KINGDOM please let me know.

 

Yours sincerely

 

Dr Shantanu Panigrahi

3 Hoath Lane

Wigmore

Gillingham Kent ME8 0SL

 

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(a) AMENDMENT TO THE PETITION AT 38 DEGREES FOR A WRITTEN CONSTITUTION IN THE UNITED KINGDOM.pdf

(b)

FrPetitionsCommitteHOC(FurtherClarificationsPlease)31May2024.pdf

(c)

COLLABORATION FOR A WRITTEN CONSTITUTION FOR THE UNITED KINGDOM

 

(a)

AMENDMENT TO THE PETITION AT 38 DEGREES FOR A WRITTEN CONSTITUTION IN THE UNITED KINGDOM

 

To: Select Committee for Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs in the House of Commons

We need a Written Constitution for the United Kingdom

SP

Campaign created by SHANTANU PANIGRAHI: contact ShantanuPanigrahi through emailing him.



 

 

 

Dear all

 

I have checked with all appropriate State-authorities including the Privy Council that thus: unless the Parliamentary authorities at the House of Commons and the House of Lords direct me otherwise I will campaign for a Written Constitution of the United Kingdom.

 

Background Justification

We need to obtain clarity on the functionality of the State so that government officials are made accountable to the public at large, for which the fundamental question is what is the unwritten Constitution that we have.

 

Right now the Security Services can perpetrate tyranny on the people and the citizen has no chance of success in attempting to litigate and prosecute the police  in the courts. Similarly one cannot litigate or prosecute the Prime Minister for causing untold misery to individuals because he or she is protected by the force of a dictatorial constitutional monarchy secretively operating through preventing people knowing the relationships between the Monarch and the Prime Minister, the Security Services incorporating the Police, the Civil and Criminal Courts of the State, and the regulatory authorities at the Legal Ombudsman, the Parliamentary and Health Service Ombudsman the Solicitors Regulation Authority, the Bar Standards Board and the Financial Services Ombudsman.

 

These inter-relationships need to be identified and set in stone through a Written Constitution for which a Select Committee at the House of Commons needs to accept responsibility to undertake the task outlined through this petition from the public.

In the absence of any of the four political parties submitting these proposals through to the due political process of the House of Commons and the House of Lords, the only route identified by the author from communications with the Petition Committee of the House of Commons is to submit a Petition through 38 Degrees to the government and parliament for due consideration.

 

Why is this important?

To better our lives in the United Kingdom into the medium- and long-term future.

_________________________________________________________________________________________

Dear 38 Degrees

I have consulted with the State authorities further and find that 38 Degrees continues to be the appropriate channel for securing 100000 signatures to the Petition for the Select Committee to consider the motion of the Petition.

I hope that the amendments that I have made is now acceptable to 38 Degrees. SEND

_________________________________________________________________________________________

We Found A Problem With your petition

We're concerned that the content of your petition might be inappropriate.

A site admin said...

We do not host any petitions which link to other petitions on 3rd party websites

Edit your petition to correct this issue. We'll review any changes you make.

You can also get in touch to tell us more about the fight you're trying to win, and we may have a second look and re-enable your petition.

✓ Thank you for contacting us, we will review your petition soon.

 

(b)

Further Clarification Please

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Fri, 31 May at 14:05

HOC Petitions Committee

To: Shantanu Panigrahi

Fri, 31 May at 15:05

 

Thank you for contacting us.

 

Once you have created a petition you need to get a minimum of 5 people to support this before we check it – we are staff of the House of Commons.

 

Your petition will not go live on the site until after we have checked it and have corresponded with you about whether it is good to go, or if we need further information.

 

All e-petitions are open from six months.

 

The decision for e-petitions to be open for signature for six months was recommended by the House of Commons Procedure Committee in 2014.

 

That Committee undertook a detailed inquiry into e-petitions, the recommendations of which were published in their report, E-petitions: a collaborative system.

 

I hope this has answered your query – you can find out more about how petitions work here: https://petition.parliament.uk/help

 

Regards,

The Petitions Team

Petitions Committee

House of Commons, Palace of Westminster, London SW1A 0AA

parliament.uk  @houseofcommons

petition.parliament.uk  @HoCpetitions

 

From: Shantanu Panigrahi <shantanupanigrahi@yahoo.com>

Sent: Friday, May 31, 2024 2:05 PM

To: HOC Petitions Committee <petitionscommittee@parliament.uk>

Subject: Further Clarification Please

 

To

The Petitions Committee

Thank you for your email - it is very helpful to me.

 

I just had a few more queries before I get going on drafting the petition in accordance with your stipulations as attached: FrPetitionsCommittee(Withdrawal of Petition_FurtherClarifications on Lawfulness of Petition)30May2024.docx, as follows:

 

I understand that as soon as I receive 5 sponsors, the Petition will go live automatically, and once 21 signatures are obtained the Petition Committee will sit to assess the petition that it meets the required  standard before deciding whether it can then go live until 10,000 signatures are obtained. If this is correct, my first question is what is  the composition of the Committee at Stage 21 signatures in that would it be purely administrative staff who make the decision on whether it goes live or not, or is it Members of Parliament; and if the latter, will it be a all Party Committee in terms of Labour, Conservative, Liberal Democrats, Scottish National Party, Greens, and what is the total number of Members in the Committee who will make this decision?

 

Further, when 100,000 signatures are reached, will the same Petitions Committee in a particular Parliament who would write to me with the outcome and what further processing of the content of the Petition would take place in the House of Commons?

 

Finally, if within the next Parliament of up to 5 years, the petition does not attract 10,000 signatures, will it be dissolved so that I would have to start the whole process once again as now or will it be resumed from the frozen state automatically (or perhaps a selection procedure would be employed) into the new Parliament and into subsequent Parliaments? In other words do all petitions to parliament have a shelf-life of a single parliament?

 

Your reply to these queries will assist me in making the final decision on whether to bother to go down the Petition route for I feel that unless my particular petition is permitted to run ad infinitum I will not succeed in my objective of getting the matter to the Select Committee for Public Administration and Constitutional Matters for a Written Constitution in the United Kingdom.

 

Yours sincerely

Dr Shantanu Panigrahi

3 Hoath Lane

Wigmore

Gillingham

Kent ME8 0SL

United Kingdom

Tel: 07967789619

UK Parliament Disclaimer: this e-mail is confidential to the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender and delete it from your system. Any unauthorised use, disclosure, or copying is not permitted. This e-mail has been checked for viruses, but no liability is accepted for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. This e-mail address is not secure, is not encrypted and should not be used for sensitive data.

 

(c)

COLLABORATION FOR A WRITTEN CONSITUTION IN THE UNITED KINGDOM

 

Shantanu Panigrahi

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Dear all

 

I have checked with all appropriate State-authorities including the Privy Council that ‘thus, unless the Parliamentary authorities at the House of Commons and the House of Lords direct me otherwise, I will send out this link to the members of the population for consideration just on the limited contents of the petition’ to Parliament to amend the Constitution of the United Kingdom.

 

Background Justification

Please support my parliamentary petition for an amendment to the Constitution of the United Kingdom to obtain clarity on the functionality of the State so that government officials are made accountable to the public at large, and for a written Constitution. Right now the Security Services can perpetrate tyranny on the people and the citizen has no chance of success in attempting to litigate and prosecute the police  in the courts. Similarly one cannot litigate or prosecute the Prime Minister for causing untold misery to individuals because he or she is protected by the force of a dictatorial  Constitutional monarchy secretively operating through preventing people knowing the relationships between the Monarch and the Prime Minister, the Security Services incorporating the Police, the Civil and Criminal Courts of the State, and the regulatory authorities at the Legal Ombudsman, the Parliamentary and Health Service Ombudsman the Solicitors Regulation Authority, the Bar Standards Board and the Financial Services Ombudsman. These inter-relationships need to be identified and set in stone through a Written Constitution for which a Select Committee at the House of Commons needs to accept responsibility to undertake the task outlined through this parliamentary petition from the public.

In the absence of any of the four political parties submitting these proposals to the due process of the House of Commons and the House of Lords, the only route identified by the author is to submit an ePetition to the government and parliament for due consideration.

The specific contents of the ePetition which has been cleared by all State authorities for implementation are:

Have an amended Constitution.

Institute a Select Committee Specially convened for the purpose as I have gone through all other processes of Parliament and it has not received a positive response.

To keep people better informed on who is in charge of procedures of the House of Commons and of the House of Lords, what the functions of the Consultant Psychiatrists, Chief Constables of Police Forces are and who are the officials against whom a citizen can successfully prosecute in civil and criminal courts of the United Kingdom.

Please click on this link to sign the petition:

 

Sponsors to the Petition

Andrew Brown supported your petition

Andrew Brown supported your petition

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Petitions: UK Government and Parliament

Mon, 27 May at 09:27

 

Dear Shantanu Panigrahi,

Andrew Brown supported your petition – “Have an amended Constitution.”.

You have 1 supporter so far. If 5 people support your petition we’ll check it to make sure it meets the petition standards. If it does, we’ll publish it.

Find out how we check petitions before we publish them:

Thanks,

The Petitions team

UK Government and Parliament

_________________________________________________________________________________________

On Messenger at Facebook

 

Andrew Brown

Andrew Brown

 

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27 May at 05:15

Mon 05:15

You sent

You sent

Today at 09:34

09:34

You sent

Hello Andrew, I believe that you signed this petition, which was terminated by Parliament when it was dissolved on 30 May 2024.

You sent

It can be resubmitted when the next Parliament comes in and I do intend to campaign for a Written Constitution.

You sent

I have been given the attached guidelines for further work, if you are interested we can collaborate.

Attachment sent to Andrew Brown:

Further Clarification Please

Yahoo/Inbox

Fri, 31 May at 14:05

HOC Petitions Committee

To: Shantanu Panigrahi

Fri, 31 May at 15:05

Thank you for contacting us.

Once you have created a petition you need to get a minimum of 5 people to support this before we check it – we are staff of the House of Commons.

Your petition will not go live on the site until after we have checked it and have corresponded with you about whether it is good to go, or if we need further information.

All e-petitions are open from six months.

The decision for e-petitions to be open for signature for six months was recommended by the House of Commons Procedure Committee in 2014.

That Committee undertook a detailed inquiry into e-petitions, the recommendations of which were published in their report, E-petitions: a collaborative system.

I hope this has answered your query – you can find out more about how petitions work here: https://petition.parliament.uk/help

Regards,

The Petitions Team

Petitions Committee

House of Commons, Palace of Westminster, London SW1A 0AA

parliament.uk  @houseofcommons

petition.parliament.uk  @HoCpetitions

From: Shantanu Panigrahi <shantanupanigrahi@yahoo.com>

Sent: Friday, May 31, 2024 2:05 PM

To: HOC Petitions Committee <petitionscommittee@parliament.uk>

Subject: Further Clarification Please

To

The Petitions Committee

Thank you for your email - it is very helpful to me.

I just had a few more queries before I get going on drafting the petition in accordance with your stipulations as attached: FrPetitionsCommittee(Withdrawal of Petition_FurtherClarifications on Lawfulness of Petition)30May2024.docx, as follows:

I understand that as soon as I receive 5 sponsors, the Petition will go live automatically, and once 21 signatures are obtained the Petition Committee will sit to assess the petition that it meets the required  standard before deciding whether it can then go live until 10,000 signatures are obtained. If this is correct, my first question is what is  the composition of the Committee at Stage 21 signatures in that would it be purely administrative staff who make the decision on whether it goes live or not, or is it Members of Parliament; and if the latter, will it be a all Party Committee in terms of Labour, Conservative, Liberal Democrats, Scottish National Party, Greens, and what is the total number of Members in the Committee who will make this decision?

Further, when 100,000 signatures are reached, will the same Petitions Committee in a particular Parliament who would write to me with the outcome and what further processing of the content of the Petition would take place in the House of Commons?

Finally, if within the next Parliament of up to 5 years, the petition does not attract 10,000 signatures, will it be dissolved so that I would have to start the whole process once again as now or will it be resumed from the frozen state automatically (or perhaps a selection procedure would be employed) into the new Parliament and into subsequent Parliaments? In other words do all petitions to parliament have a shelf-life of a single parliament?

Your reply to these queries will assist me in making the final decision on whether to bother to go down the Petition route for I feel that unless my particular petition is permitted to run ad infinitum I will not succeed in my objective of getting the matter to the Select Committee for Public Administration and Constitutional Matters for a Written Constitution in the United Kingdom.

Yours sincerely

Dr Shantanu Panigrahi

3 Hoath Lane

Wigmore

Gillingham

Kent ME8 0SL

United Kingdom

Tel: 07967789619

UK Parliament Disclaimer: this e-mail is confidential to the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender and delete it from your system. Any unauthorised use, disclosure, or copying is not permitted. This e-mail has been checked for viruses, but no liability is accepted for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. This e-mail address is not secure, is not encrypted and should not be used for sensitive data.You sent

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date:     1 Jun 2024, 12:29

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